Rosebud #51
No one has yet adequately explained why the remains of the victims of 9/11 were apparently either vaporized or blown to bits. The media is simply accepting the city and federal government's story that bodies were shredded into "slivers of...fragments" (see below) and cast blocks asunder as a result of the plane crashes and the collapse of the Towers. But this just makes no sense; in a "pancake collapse" as described by the 9/11 Commission Report there would have been many more intact bodies, yet over a thousand people have never been found. "Where are all the bodies?" asked firemen at the scene. The victims of 9/11 deserve a relentless, thorough investigation of their horrible deaths, which there has not yet been....
Relatives Struggle With 9/11 Discoveries
By AMY WESTFELDT, AP
NEW YORK (Nov. 11) - Mary Jane Waring has waited five years for someone to find her brother so she can bury a small part of what she lost on Sept. 11, 2001.
The New York city medical examiner's office has stored more than 9,000 unidentified remains found since the 9/11 attacks at the world trade center.
But since the recent discovery of hundreds more bones in long-buried places at ground zero, she has become afraid of the emotions that could be stirred up.
"If they do find something, it would be very upsetting for everybody," said Waring, whose brother, James Waring, died in the top floors of the World Trade Center's north tower.
Some people who never received any remains of their family members are uncertain about what they want to find. Others, who have already buried some remains, face the possibility of another funeral or burial.
Hope for the return of remains to families of the 2,749 people who died at the trade center - more than 40 percent of whom have never been identified - has grown with the recent discoveries, and forensic experts say advances in DNA technology could lead to new identifications for many victims.
"I'll tell you the truth, I couldn't go through exhuming his body again," said Bruce De Cell, whose son-in-law, Mark Petrocelli, died in the north tower. The family has received remains five times and buried him twice, the last time in 2003. "As far as I'm concerned, I hope I don't hear any more."
The lengthy search for body parts is a rare thing for disasters. Experts have identified the remains of all 230 victims of TWA Flight 800, which crashed in the ocean off Long Island in 1996, and of the 168 Oklahoma City federal building bombing victims.
Although Hurricane Katrina killed more than 1,300 people in Louisiana, only about 30 bodies remain unidentified. Frank Minyard, the Orleans Parish coroner, suspects many of the unidentified victims may not have had close family who knew their whereabouts.
The New York city medical examiner's office has stored more than 9,000 unidentified remains found since the trade center attacks. Nearly 1,000 pieces were found during a renewed search on the roof of a skyscraper near the destroyed towers. The fragments found beginning in mid-October came from abandoned manholes on the western edge of the Trade Center site. City officials plan a yearlong search for more remains.
The most recent finds are in good condition, and forensic experts told family members that improved DNA technology could yield to many new identifications.
"We try to match whatever DNA profiles that we manage to create to whatever DNA profiles that were in our database," said Ellen Borakove, spokeswoman for the city medical examiner's office.
In September, Joan Greener received word that remains of her niece, Karen Martin, were positively identified.
"It was like a knife in your chest again," said Greener, of Salem, Mass. "You spent a couple of days bawling your eyes out and feeling that pain again. But then you thought, you know, this is a good thing."
Greener's family had buried dust from ground zero in 2001 to remember Martin, 40, of Danvers, Mass., a flight attendant on the first hijacked airliner crashed into the trade center.
Bob O'Mahony prefers not to think about finding his brother, Matt O'Mahony, who worked on the top floors of the north tower.
"You're talking about slivers of bones and fragments and DNA. What does that really mean?" O'Mahony said. "The phone call comes in; it opens up a Pandora's box. A hard scab has already been formed. Do you really want to open it?"
Relatives Struggle With 9/11 Discoveries
By AMY WESTFELDT, AP
NEW YORK (Nov. 11) - Mary Jane Waring has waited five years for someone to find her brother so she can bury a small part of what she lost on Sept. 11, 2001.
The New York city medical examiner's office has stored more than 9,000 unidentified remains found since the 9/11 attacks at the world trade center.
But since the recent discovery of hundreds more bones in long-buried places at ground zero, she has become afraid of the emotions that could be stirred up.
"If they do find something, it would be very upsetting for everybody," said Waring, whose brother, James Waring, died in the top floors of the World Trade Center's north tower.
Some people who never received any remains of their family members are uncertain about what they want to find. Others, who have already buried some remains, face the possibility of another funeral or burial.
Hope for the return of remains to families of the 2,749 people who died at the trade center - more than 40 percent of whom have never been identified - has grown with the recent discoveries, and forensic experts say advances in DNA technology could lead to new identifications for many victims.
"I'll tell you the truth, I couldn't go through exhuming his body again," said Bruce De Cell, whose son-in-law, Mark Petrocelli, died in the north tower. The family has received remains five times and buried him twice, the last time in 2003. "As far as I'm concerned, I hope I don't hear any more."
The lengthy search for body parts is a rare thing for disasters. Experts have identified the remains of all 230 victims of TWA Flight 800, which crashed in the ocean off Long Island in 1996, and of the 168 Oklahoma City federal building bombing victims.
Although Hurricane Katrina killed more than 1,300 people in Louisiana, only about 30 bodies remain unidentified. Frank Minyard, the Orleans Parish coroner, suspects many of the unidentified victims may not have had close family who knew their whereabouts.
The New York city medical examiner's office has stored more than 9,000 unidentified remains found since the trade center attacks. Nearly 1,000 pieces were found during a renewed search on the roof of a skyscraper near the destroyed towers. The fragments found beginning in mid-October came from abandoned manholes on the western edge of the Trade Center site. City officials plan a yearlong search for more remains.
The most recent finds are in good condition, and forensic experts told family members that improved DNA technology could yield to many new identifications.
"We try to match whatever DNA profiles that we manage to create to whatever DNA profiles that were in our database," said Ellen Borakove, spokeswoman for the city medical examiner's office.
In September, Joan Greener received word that remains of her niece, Karen Martin, were positively identified.
"It was like a knife in your chest again," said Greener, of Salem, Mass. "You spent a couple of days bawling your eyes out and feeling that pain again. But then you thought, you know, this is a good thing."
Greener's family had buried dust from ground zero in 2001 to remember Martin, 40, of Danvers, Mass., a flight attendant on the first hijacked airliner crashed into the trade center.
Bob O'Mahony prefers not to think about finding his brother, Matt O'Mahony, who worked on the top floors of the north tower.
"You're talking about slivers of bones and fragments and DNA. What does that really mean?" O'Mahony said. "The phone call comes in; it opens up a Pandora's box. A hard scab has already been formed. Do you really want to open it?"
posted by NancyJo at 10:24 AM
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